Steroids First cycle/stack - Seeking advice and recommendations

[doliprane1000mg]

Hello everyone,


I would like to get some feedback on my planned cycle. Here's what I have so far:


Current cycle:

• 30mg of Dianabol per day
• 30mg of Winstrol per day
• 0.5mg of Anastrazole every two day

I was planning to take 4 Samarin tablets per day for liver protection, but it's out of stock. However, I have NAC and TUDCA 600mg. Can this replace Samarin, or do you have any alternative recommendations?


PCT (Post Cycle Therapy):

• Clomid 50mg per day for 20 days
• Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) 20mg per day for 20 days

I would also appreciate any advice on a good oral testosterone base, if anyone has suggestions.


Thanks in advance for your feedback and advice!

 

[BlackSheep00]

First cycle should be 500mg of Test. That's it.

 

[doliprane1000mg]

Thanks for your reply.

When you say 500mg of Test, do you mean per week or per day?
Also, do you have any advice or feedback regarding an oral testosterone base.

 

[BlackSheep00]

Thanks for your reply.

When you say 500mg of Test, do you mean per week or per day?
Also, do you have any advice or feedback regarding an oral testosterone base.

500mg / Wk is all you should be running, this way you'll understand how your body reacts. No orals.

 

[doliprane1000mg]

Any advice on NAC/TUDCA/Samarin? How many pills per day of Samarin should I take if I'm already using TUDCA and NAC? I was thinking about 2 pills per day.

 

[BlackSheep00]

Any advice on NAC/TUDCA/Samarin? How many pills per day of Samarin should I take if I'm already using TUDCA and NAC? I was thinking about 2 pills per day.

whats the reasoning behind taking any of those?

 

[doliprane1000mg]

whats the reasoning behind taking any of those?

Liver protection.

 

[BlackSheep00]

Liver protection.

Test wont affect liver. I think you should do a bit more research before thinking about running a cycle. What is your training / nutrition like?

 

[doliprane1000mg]

I understand your point. The reason I mentioned liver protection is because I’m talking about oral compounds. Since orals are metabolized by the liver, I want to be careful. That’s why I’m asking these questions.

Oral steroids like Dianabol and Winstrol affect the liver because they are 17-alpha alkylated. This chemical modification allows them to survive digestion, but it also means they pass through the liver first and are harder for the liver to break down.

 

[BlackSheep00]

I understand your point. The reason I mentioned liver protection is because I’m talking about oral compounds. Since orals are metabolized by the liver, I want to be careful. That’s why I’m asking these questions.

Well your asking the wrong questions. Your "planned" cycle is shit and quite frankly isn't even a cycle. I guided you towards what you should be doing as your first cycle as many will agree.

I suggest you spend more time doing your research.

 

[BigPapaPumpCA]

Hello everyone,


I would like to get some feedback on my planned cycle. Here's what I have so far:


Current cycle:

• 30mg of Dianabol per day
• 30mg of Winstrol per day
• 0.5mg of Anastrazole every two day

I was planning to take 4 Samarin tablets per day for liver protection, but it's out of stock. However, I have NAC and TUDCA 600mg. Can this replace Samarin, or do you have any alternative recommendations?


PCT (Post Cycle Therapy):

• Clomid 50mg per day for 20 days
• Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) 20mg per day for 20 days

I would also appreciate any advice on a good oral testosterone base, if anyone has suggestions.


Thanks in advance for your feedback and advice!

welcome to meso bro
why this is your cycle now dbol and winstroL? what country you at now?
@doliprane1000mg

 

[Stevesmi]

I understand your point. The reason I mentioned liver protection is because I’m talking about oral compounds. Since orals are metabolized by the liver, I want to be careful. That’s why I’m asking these questions.

Oral steroids like Dianabol and Winstrol affect the liver because they are 17-alpha alkylated. This chemical modification allows them to survive digestion, but it also means they pass through the liver first and are harder for the liver to break down.

You're going to get organ strain on steroids. The key is you keep the cycles moderate and you make sure you come off. Your organs should rebound.

 

[Mobster]

You post NOTHING about you or the aim of the cycle.

 

[doliprane1000mg]

@BigPapaPumpCA

I’m having trouble getting gains on my chest and arms. I’m bulking, but I’m seeing easier gains on my legs, and I want a more balanced physique. I have a private coach, and this week I’m starting a 4-day training routine per week, with every session being with my coach.

I don't want to mention my country, but it’s not legal here.

@Stevesmi

My cycle is for 4 weeks. Do you think it's considered 'moderate'?

@Mobster

My goal is to gain mass while staying leaner. I know Dianabol causes water retention, which is why I added Winstrol.

 

[2Thick]

@BigPapaPumpCA

I’m having trouble getting gains on my chest and arms. I’m bulking, but I’m seeing easier gains on my legs, and I want a more balanced physique. I have a private coach, and this week I’m starting a 4-day training routine per week, with every session being with my coach.

I don't want to mention my country, but it’s not legal here.

@Stevesmi

My cycle is for 4 weeks. Do you think it's considered 'moderate'?

@Mobster

My goal is to gain mass while staying leaner. I know Dianabol causes water retention, which is why I added Winstrol.

You need to build consistency in the gym. You're still a young guy. Once you build consistency your chest will grow as you get older.

 

[doliprane1000mg]

@2Thick

I am over 30 years old, and I’ve been training regularly without missing a day. I box three times a week and work with a personal trainer two days per week. I’ve been doing this for seven months now.

 

[ROIDDERS]

@2Thick

I am over 30 years old, and I’ve been training regularly without missing a day. I box three times a week and work with a personal trainer two days per week. I’ve been doing this for seven months now.

30 years old is still super young. I didn't really figure out my body until I was well into my late 30s.

 

[ceo]

Hello everyone,


I would like to get some feedback on my planned cycle. Here's what I have so far:


Current cycle:

• 30mg of Dianabol per day
• 30mg of Winstrol per day
• 0.5mg of Anastrazole every two day

I was planning to take 4 Samarin tablets per day for liver protection, but it's out of stock. However, I have NAC and TUDCA 600mg. Can this replace Samarin, or do you have any alternative recommendations?


PCT (Post Cycle Therapy):

• Clomid 50mg per day for 20 days
• Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) 20mg per day for 20 days

I would also appreciate any advice on a good oral testosterone base, if anyone has suggestions.


Thanks in advance for your feedback and advice!

Bros, for your liver I'd recommend TUDCA. and if you can get it shipped to you in your country n2guard which has tudca and everything else already in the formula

 

[Ulter]

Hello everyone,


I would like to get some feedback on my planned cycle. Here's what I have so far:


Current cycle:

• 30mg of Dianabol per day
• 30mg of Winstrol per day
• 0.5mg of Anastrazole every two day

I was planning to take 4 Samarin tablets per day for liver protection, but it's out of stock. However, I have NAC and TUDCA 600mg. Can this replace Samarin, or do you have any alternative recommendations?


PCT (Post Cycle Therapy):

• Clomid 50mg per day for 20 days
• Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) 20mg per day for 20 days

I would also appreciate any advice on a good oral testosterone base, if anyone has suggestions.


Thanks in advance for your feedback and advice!

I would do it a little different. I would do Dianabol with T-Bol. That's a much better mix. Winstrol. I don't see the point on this one.

 

[doliprane1000mg]

@ceo​

How many mg of TUDCA per day?

@Ulter​

How many mg of T-bol per day?